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2006 No. 2006 [Edit]
Who's the worst touhou?
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>> No. 2015 [Edit]
For me, Seiga. Unlikable character, boring boss fight, and even a lame theme.
>> No. 2035 [Edit]
Most touhou at bare minimum are cute or aesthetically pleasing to some degree, but clownpiss doesn't even have that going for her and looks fucking retarded. She's easily the worst touhou ever.
>> No. 2036 [Edit]
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I think she sends the biggest message, some type of postmodernism vibe.

She reminds me of Anzu from idolm@ster.
>> No. 2037 [Edit]
That America is a big joke and run by a bunch of clowns?
>> No. 2038 [Edit]
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i think she says a lot about the fans too.
>> No. 2039 [Edit]
Well that was a terrible argument. Objectively, she's without a doubt one of most aesthetically pleasing characters ZUN has ever drawn in terms of quality and anatomy. If you don't like her because you're salty about the American motifs, you can just say so.
>> No. 2040 [Edit]
Quality and anatomy maybe, but she's wearing little more than long johns with an asymmetrical pattern and a ridiculous hat that doesn't match said outfit.
That pattern might work for a flag but it doesn't for clothing. Unless specifically done so for a political purposes there's no good reason to dress like that. Something like the union jack in comparison works better because of the symmetrical nature of the design along with the large areas of solid colors.

If you had to base an outfit around the American flag there's much better ways to do it. What Zun did with clownpiece was the most lazy possible way to create an outfit possible. If you took the naked figure of a character, placed a stock image of a flag on top of it, then deleted the area outside of the silhouette and cut off the area for the head and arms you'd have the same basic character design with maybe four minutes of work. It's not the American motifs that are the problem nearly as much as it's how they're implemented.

The best way to implement American motifs into an outfit would be to primary focus on the colors rather than the pattern. you can make really well designed outfits using just red white and blue. Just off the top of my head you can have something with white thigh highs, a red dress, and a blue coat. To take that a step further you can go with striped socks(on both legs) and maybe a jacket with the stars on it. There's many directions you can go in if you get creative, which in this case Zun did not care enough to.
Even Doremy Sweet's outfit design looks like something someone at least 'tried' with, even if they tried while clearly being drunk.
>> No. 2041 [Edit]
Fair enough, I can see your points. ZUN's implementation of the American motifs into her nonspell attacks and 2nd spellcard were certainly done more elegantly than her outfit. And she does have a ridiculous name, whether or not it was intended to be a parody.
>> No. 2097 [Edit]
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You're all just upset because of your 2420 failed attempts at False Apollo.
>> No. 2098 [Edit]
Clownpiece has a great design. She's really, really cute, I'd say she's the best-designed character in LoLK.

Hecatia, on the other hand, has a design that I can't really get past. It's just so awful. She looks and seems like a weird fanfiction character.
>> No. 2105 [Edit]
I'll get murdered here for saying this but probably Flandre just because of how the fanbase characterizes her. She is not a cute loli who will call you onii-chan and sit on your lap. She is a sociopathic centuries-old vampire who's been isolated from the world outside the scarlet mansion and she will suck your blood and not in a sexy way.
>> No. 2108 [Edit]
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Yoshika. Literally no personality, and that's her whole concept. Also easily the most boring boss fights. Constant spam of ugly and idiotic projectile over and over. She also eats to recover health and gets respawned so she can spam even more. ZUN made her intentionally unlikable so that Seiga would seem really wicked for creating and liking her. Yoshika also gets way too much screen time especially for a shit character, making her even more irritating.
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yoshiaki has one of the best themes in td though.

you do make a good point, flandre isn't intended to be this moeblob vampire loli, but she also isn't intended to be a figure of wanton destruction with intense psychological issues. the moeblob depiction comes up because she is a reclusive loli vampire, and those are huge moe elements.

i don't know where people get this image of flandre as a bloodthirsty maniac though.

she just has an incredibly strong power (as shown in BAiJR), and remilia can't rely on her socially weird, bed-wetting little sister to be responsible enough to control what seems to be pretty close to Gensokyo's equivalent to Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
>> No. 2173 [Edit]
Clownpiece's outfit is goofy as hell, but I think it works on her. I can totally see someone like her wearing it and just being an annoying, gaudy MFer. Just because ZUN may have gotten lazy and put the US flag on some PJ's doesn't necessarily make it bad.
>> No. 2322 [Edit]
I would have gone for more of a "loli uncle sam" design if I was making clown piece. The design is already there and he's almost a mythological entity at this point anyway.
>> No. 2324 [Edit]
I agree and that last spell card makes you dodge several layers of bullets to stop her from absorbing spirits and extending the fight longer than needed.
>> No. 2364 [Edit]
clownpiece wasn‘t intended to represent america, although a loli uncle sam could work it wouldn‘t in this case.

Honestly her design baffles me. As far as i know she is a lampad, a type of nymph from hell that follow hecate, carrying a torch whose flames induce madness.
The flag design incorporated into everything is very exaggerated and doesn’t tell much about the character at all.
A theory of mine is that this is to annoy the lunarians due to the flag that was planted on the moon, maybe.
>> No. 2365 [Edit]
I feel a simpler explanation is that Zun thinks Americans are a bunch of clowns pretending to want peace.
>> No. 2366 [Edit]
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I read somewhere that clownpiece was designed that way to make of fun of how Japan is sometimes brought up in American media seemingly randomly and without real significance to anything else.

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