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35784 No. 35784 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I have conducted a thorough analysis of anime from the year 2016. The primary purpose of this analysis is to identify works which have artistic merit, and to classify the nature of that artistic merit. Secondarily, my intent here is to rank the works in terms of their superiority in various categories. This will allow for comparison with other surveys of 2016 anime. This analysis is an expression of my own personal opinions and did not involve input from anyone else. I did this for my own intellectual and personal satisfaction, but I also hope that others may find it interesting or useful. At the very least, maybe this will generate some interesting discussion. Additionally, if you're looking for anime to watch, you can peruse through the specific categories I've provided to identify works that are likely to suit your tastes. 

Only anime which started airing in 2016 are considered here. Meaning that anime for which the first season aired before 2016 are not considered (ex. neither Hibike Euphonium nor Love Live are candidates here). The considered anime are evaluated on the basis of all seasons that have aired (not just the first season in 2016). Movies are not included unless they are related to a TV anime (ex. Bungou Stray Dogs). I am conducting reviews for other years using this same system. Annual reviews are typically done as soon as the year ends, but I believe my methodology here is superior for conducting reviews of years retrospectively. Furthermore, classifying the year's best works only by season/genre I find is an ineffective method for identifying meritorious works, so I've included more-specific categories. 

Categories and their results are listed below. Winning titles for each category are separated by commas, with the superior titles being listed first. For the genre categories I've provided two answers (the winning title followed by the runner up). However, polls for anime of the season and anime of the year typically list many top candidates in their results, so I've followed a similar procedure with my results here. For the anime of the season and year results, I've listed the top-5 candidates in order of superiority, with the winning title listed first and the progressively lesser titles listed afterwards.

Regarding the genre results, there are a couple important
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>> No. 35812 [Edit]
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Again, very well said. I'm glad you're here to defend Flip Flappers. You're doing a better job of it than I could.

>Overall, to me at least this show is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of special thing, and stumbling upon it truly was a stroke of "Serendipity."
Yep, it really is something special. To me, Flip Flappers feels like such a sincere and authentic expression of art.

>Why not have a category specifically for thematics then?
Not a bad idea but it might be difficult to isolate that kind of thing. I will consider adding this to the next annual analysis I do.

>I judge things primarily based on how they make me feel, not how "deep" they are.
I just want to chime in on this point and say this: I also hugely value the emotional experience of the viewer, and I've tried to address this in my various award categories. Also, many of my top-scored 2016 anime are highly emotional.
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>> No. 35813 [Edit]
>sexual undertones
The wording here reminded me of this.
Joking aside, this amount of "elegance" feels like beating around the bush.
>Sangatsu no Lion
Looks interesting.
>> No. 35814 [Edit]
> I'm glad you're here to defend Flip Flappers
I don't think it's something that really needs defense per se (art is inherently subjective and in the eye of the beholder, after all); the discussion just gave me an opportunity to flesh out thoughts I've wanted to for some time.

> You might as well be saying something isn't supposed to be "good".
I think that goes to the core of what art is, which is deep into the philosophy realm I don't know much about. But yes, I think criticism of shows reveals more about the mismatch between the value function of the viewer and the one optimized for by the show, than it does reveal something inherent about the show itself. Of course, even this indirect information can still be useful for determining what you ultimately care about: whether the show will work for you.

Or in other words for every flaw you can find in a show there's probably someone else who considers that flaw crucial to his enjoyment.
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Thank you for providing this analysis. It's a breath of fresh air, too many people trot out the cliche that anime went to shit after [year the speaker got into anime]. If you did this whole analysis again for a different year, would you pick an adjacent year or one farther away?

I was a little surprised that you considered 2016 better than 2017. Perhaps I shouldn't be quick to judge, since I've seen far fewer 2016 anime than 2017, but to me 2017 had some pretty strong offerings: Made in Abyss, Kemono Friends, Youjo Senki, Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou, Little Witch Academia, Isekai Shokudou, Urara Meirochou, and Mahoutsukai no Yome for example. Though on second thought, eight is not many when you're comparing an entire year to another.

You call Fantasy and Mystery/Psychological the weakest genres but in >>35786 it is instead fantasy and slice of life that you talk about. Could you elaborate on why mystery/psychological was weak?

Regarding the presentation, using bbcode would have helped, and it's also much easier to read if you separate vertically rather than horizontally. (Picture related.) Don't be afraid to take up the vertical space. Well, that's questionable, but definitely use the bbcode so it's immediately obvious which text is and isn't anime titles. You can use more posts so you can separate the broad topics, e.g. a post for best by season + best in year (and the order of those should be swapped so you increase in granularity of the categories as your whole analysis proceeds), then a post for the genre awards, then for the characteristics awards, etc. From where the posts break up the text, I get the impression it was only post length limits that determined the splits.
Regarding the honourable mentions, as a reader I don't see much of a point in having that section. Without knowing why a specific anime got a mention, it becomes just a list of the anime that did not make the top three for whichever award you're listing it for. Perhaps you could restrict it to one anime per award and have a sentence or two explaining why that one is worth mentioning but not worth putting in the top three. Another approach is to put th
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33339 No. 33339 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Let's post reviews of anime when we finish watching them!

It doesn't have to be from this season; any anime is fine!

I'll post the first review ITT
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>> No. 35830 [Edit]
>Have you also seen Yoru wa Mijikashi Aruke yo Otome?
No. Thanks for the suggestion.
>> No. 35831 [Edit]
>lofty ideals
I shouldn't have phrased it this way. What I meant was unattainably high standards, not necessarily ideals that are lofty in the sense that they are noble, virtuous, or admirable.
Sorry for my clumsy word choice.

Feel free to post what you thought of it if you get around to watching it.
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Actually, wanting to watch Yoru wa Mijikashi Aruke yo Otome is the reason I finally decided to watch Tatami Galaxy in the first place. I plan to watch the movie sometime this year, although I'm doubtful I'll enjoy it now due to my distaste for Tatami Galaxy.
>> No. 35833 [Edit]
>If you find this garbage relatable then you need to take a serious look at what kind of person you are.
I'm a perfectly fine kind of person, so fuck off.

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25650 No. 25650 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think it's been years since we last had a favorite OP/ED thread.

whelp, You guys know what to do!
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>> No. 35404 [Edit]
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Every other anime ED ~ slow music, static shots, minimal or looping animation because the purpose of the ED is to list credits.

Kumoko ED ~
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The soundtracks for Kimagure Orange Road are brilliant, I've been listening to them for a while now.

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>> No. 35815 [Edit]
I'm partial to those EDs that have a note of sadness and ronery feeling in them. They're especially great to listen to when feeling disillusioned.

Imouto sae Ireba II – Donna Hoshizora yori mo (
Slow Start – Kaze no Koe wo Kiki Nagara (
Comic Girls – Namida wa Misena (
Gakkou Gurashi – Afterglow (
Gakkou Gurashi – Harmonize Clover (
Hanayamata - Hanayuki (
>> No. 35816 [Edit]
Slow Start had a great ED.

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27148 No. 27148 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
flip fappers is good
the colors
holy fuck
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>> No. 33680 [Edit]
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There's a very nice AMV that uses the full-length OP to retell an abridged version of the story:

The amount of effort put into this show overall is breathtaking. It's a treat to watch, and you don't necessarily have to care about the underlying themes or motifs to enjoy it.
>> No. 35802 [Edit]
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>it's a show that I strongly believe was designed for the viewer to engage with
I didn't see a reason to look deeper into it since I didn't enjoy my initial experience enough to want to. Intentionally making an anime where the viewer is supposed to get most of their enjoyment from it by researching its themes, puts the entire point of anime and storytelling as a whole into question.
>relationship with her mother
The one she never knew and had no conception of? I didn't get to this before, but the whole, bad guy hypnotizes good guy, good guy's friends try to snap them out of it and fail, good guys try again with the power of friendship/love or whatever and succeed this time thing, really annoyed me. It was one the most bothersome, predictable parts of flifla.
>the beauty of flip flappers comes from the way it interweaves all these three layers together
>for a show wholly centered around the notion of perception and the subjective nature of experience, should it really be any other way?
Have you seen Paprika or Perfect Blue? I think those do similar things better. The movie format is generally better for this kind of thing in my opinion since we don't expect to get too attached to characters. More emphasis can be placed on themes for themes sake since it's a low dosage. SEL though did it better too since it was tighter, more focused, and managed to have more chemistry between Alice and Lain.

>she gains that self of identity and independence
I know that's what the show said practically point blank. They basically tacked that on at the end after her friends break her out of hypnosis(if she were really more independent, wouldn't she not need them to save her?). I didn't feel it over the course of the series though. She was also still just as boring by the end.
>this is one I can't really see
I worded it confusingly. They were "good friends" in that they l
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>> No. 35803 [Edit]
> after her friends break her out of hypnosis
If I recall correctly, it wasn't actually "hypnosis" it was just that Cocona was physically trapped in that tree thing, representative of the fact that she was still mentally trapped by her dependence on her mother. To quote from the doc

> One day she leaves her comfort zone, opens up to another girl, and goes on an adventure with her. However, what dwells deep within Cocona is her lost relationship with her mother. Cocona, afraid of failure, runs away back into her mother’s care, but she realizes that her new relationships aren’t something she can - or wants to - give up, and that her friends aren’t letting her go that easily either. She accepts who she is and becomes her own person.

And in particular in that scene we see that even though Papika herself is the motivator, it is Cocona who ultimately has to accept and unlock the tree herself.

There's also beautiful symmetry here since in the very next episode we get a flashback that shows that very tree thing is where Papika was trapped after Mimi disappeared and fragmented pure illusion – the meaning here is less clear, but I interpreted this is as the fact that Papika was ridden with guilt (since as I recall it was her idea to escape). And this time it was Cocona who helped Papika overcome that.

>bad guy hypnotizes good guy, good guy's friends try to snap them out of it
Except in this case, it _has_ to be Papika and Yayaka that help Cocona defeat Mimi. On a psychological level Cocona only overcomes her issues with the help of _both_ Papika nad Yayaka, and so it is only right that the two team up with Cocona to finally overthrow Mimi (the symbolic interpretation of this should be obvious).

And more generally, pure illusion is by definition symbolic. You can't separate the two, and everything that happens in pure illusion must be interpreted through that lens since pure illusion is the very dream-like subconscious.

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>> No. 35804 [Edit]
>her dependence on her mother
Who she never even knew. What dependence could you have for a person you never even met? A deep-seeded longing for her mother isn't very well-established either.
>it wasn't actually "hypnosis"
She acted hypnotized and not aware of her surroundings, so for all intents and purposes, she was hypnotized.
>the symbolic interpretation of this should be obvious
Yeah, it's the power of love and friendship. This theme conflicts with "becoming your own person" a bit. Sure "she must go out of the tree herself", but she doesn't think to do it on her own. She might as well be swapping her mother for her friends and gay lover.
>But that's what every episode basically was?
The in universe explanation is that Pure Illusion is another dimension that actually exists. This is a misdirection. All of the magical girl, collecting rocks just because stuff was also a needless distraction. A straight forward "here's a neural meguffin, lets use it and see what happens" set-up, would have served better.
>everything that happens in pure illusion must be interpreted through that lens
Unless I'm back in english class and getting a grade, I want to enjoy my stories first, then look at them with an uber-deep, symbolic lens.

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35589 No. 35589 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Emilyko is cute.
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>> No. 35773 [Edit]
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Well seems like they changed everything, the entire episode 11 is almost entirely original. Not sure how they are going to end this with only two episodes left. The changes made everything feel disjointed. I don't see how they are going to be able to reconcile with the manga, I'm guessing the anime will take an entirely different route from here on out. I should also probably apologize for my earlier posts, I was re-reading parts of the manga to confirm the changes to the episode and it seems like my rant about Edward's info dump was actually in the manga as well. My memory is failing me miserably and making me look like an idiot.

I would highly recommend you to read or at least skim everything from the beginning since the anime made some crucial changes from the source material. And as I've mentioned earlier, it seems like everything past the debut is going to take a different direction from the manga. It was actually mentioned in that episode that she will be turned into one of those veiled living doll.

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>> No. 35775 [Edit]
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If I were to start reading manga, I would already be heavily spoiled, and the manga could spoil the anime for me, taking away enjoyment from both. I don't mind the changes, or rather don't care about them at all, I will continue enjoying the story as the anime director envisioned it. If anything, I will read the manga as a different take on the same story.
I never really understood these comparisons to original work, and complaining when things are different. I see it as maybe a blessing, being able to see the same, or similar, story, and get surprised in places.
It's just 3 more episodes, I will see what the anime has to offer after 6 episodes of going to the basement through the garden, before starting with manga. Was the debut arc as long in the manga?
>> No. 35777 [Edit]
>>35661 here
Getting caught up. I found pretty much everything involving Edward to be a bit cringe for the lack of a better term. I find it annoying when characters (specifically antagonists.) feel the need to go on long winded rants explaining their own plans and motivations. It feels like bad lazy writing, although I get the impression it wasn't like this at all in the manga. If I had one complaint about the medium of anime, it's that things generally tend to be over the top and exaggerated with everything going on needing to be explained in excruciating detail, because I guess the average fan has ADD and can't be bothered to pay attention? I want to be able to figure things out on my own, drawn my own conclusions, I don't need to be hand held.
>> No. 35798 [Edit]
Was that game of tag from the end, in the manga? I found it a bit obnoxious and immature.
Big brother: "You can't be in my room! I'm telling dad! you're gonna get in troooouble~"
Little sister: "nuh uhh, I'ma run away and make dad get mad at you!" Those last couple ep didn't feel that well written, and came across as a half assed attempt at adding conflict for a "action packed" end to the season.

Why wouldn't there be cart access to the higher floors? They still use veiled dolls as servants, and servants need to transport supplies and materials.

If they're going to use the "I'm an adult who's going to believe you anyway" logic, why even bother with the kidnapping in the first place when he can at any time accuse them of breaking whatever rules he feels like? "Oh hey gramps, yeah kate's a terrorist, her friends too, I over heard them talking about it and how they want to kill you and blow up shadow house. No need to thank me, just doing my job."

Why aren't dolls kept on a steady supply of coffee? Especially if there's concern of them going rouge.

Why isn't anyone keeping better tabs on them if there's even a chance of this happening?

Why do shadows need to stay outside of their hosts if the coffee proves they're ripe for the mind controlling from the start? As soon as the soot forms a personality, it should be fine right?
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8903 No. 8903 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Figured it would be better to keep it in one thread, rather than make a ton of small ones every so often...
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>> No. 35754 [Edit]
Looks like Di Gi Charat is still alive and getting a new anime.
>> No. 35756 [Edit]
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>> No. 35780 [Edit]
I don't think Gamers will ever let it truly die.
>> No. 35782 [Edit]
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I can't believe it, I never expected there would ever be a second season of this. This makes me happy.

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34782 No. 34782 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Anyone check this out yet?
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>> No. 35241 [Edit]
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I'm surprised stardust didn't just go looking for another teacher.
>> No. 35263 [Edit]
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That was pretty disappointing ending, almost frustrating in fact.
I mean like, the character seems to have a lot of issues, narcissism being a big one. It might have been nice to see her acknowledge these parts of herself and address them in an attempt to better herself and grow as a person. Some self reflection might have been nice, which is almost frustrating because during that body swap scene the girl in her body was basically trying to fuck her own reflection. It felt like a weird sort of irony considering how in love with herself Elaina seems to be. Characters looking at their reflection in anime typically represents a moment of self reflection, makes me wonder if this wasn't an intentional dismissal of that trope.

Then she goes and confronts other versions of herself along the places she visited, but everything about it felt wrong.
They don't address any of her issues and instead reinforce the idea that she's really truly perfect, the ep is more of a freak show to say "thank god she didn't get up like those other versions!" They aren't really parts of herself but instead her from alternate realities? The whole thing seemed like a real missed opportunity.
It's really weird too because during the 12 ep run there were times when she flip flopped in personality so hard she seemed like a different person all together.
The last ep could have been a great way to explain that, but nope. If nothing else they could have explained that we saw another version of her at those times when she seemed to be a different person. One episode she doesn't lift a finger to help someone who's dying, later she's crying and screaming about not being able to help someone. One ep she doesn't want to get involved with the princess and her battle, latter she's storming a castle and fighting off guards while attacking the king.
In the end I think this just wasn't particularly well written and it seems like it just gets by on having a pretty girl for a main character.
>> No. 35264 [Edit]
They mentioned that "a protagonist doesn't need any special characteristics" but that only works if you're making some sort of harem show. Not in a slice of life where the personality is one of the core defining features. I also sort of see what they were trying to convey where a series of "choices" could have each led to a different Elaina, but the presentation left a lot to be desired.

It's also not a good sign when the side-stories: Saya and Stardust were more memorable and interesting than Elaina's own.
>> No. 35779 [Edit]
To me this anime was pretty good. I thought Elaina being narcissistic was funny, it gave her a unique personality that you don't see often in sol anime. I liked how the story was a lot more darker than I anticipated, like Nino who Emil had a crush on and probably made her kill herself.

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27170 No. 27170 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
List your top 5 anime. They can include movies and ova's.

Mine are:

5)Kaze to Ki no Uta SANCTUS
4)Revolutionary Girl Utena
3)Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)
2)The Rose of Versailles
1) Berserk (1997)

Btw, no need to mention Cory in the House, It's such a good anime that there is just no need to state the obvious.
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Shoujo Romance ~ Gekkan Shōjo Nozaki-kun
Shonen Romance ~ Kanojo, Okarishimasu (Rent-a-Girlfriend)
>> No. 35744 [Edit]
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Hill Climb Girl
Over Drive
Nasu: Summer in Andalusia
Idaten Jump
Yowamushi Pedal
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In no particular order:
Slayers (including movies and first three seasons)
Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
Hidamari Sketch (all seasons)
Azumanga Daioh
Touhai Densetsu Akagi
As others have stated, limiting it to five is pretty tough. Broadly, I like a lot of CGDCT and slice of life, as well as a couple other mahjong anime.
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Such rankings never work, because often different works are not comparable.
So, allow me to cheat a bit.

Top 20s

Top 5 10s
Mahou Shoujo Madoka☆Magica
CROSS ANGE: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo
Attack on Titan

Top 5 00s
Rozen Maiden: Ouvertüre
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7145 No. 7145 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Let's see how many of these we can find by pooling our resources.

Just post a cap of it in this thread when you see it.
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I wonder if studios aren't just doing it out of a sense of tradition at this point.
>> No. 35654 [Edit]
I think Super Cub is company sponsored. It's like a really, really nice ad. Not that I'm complaning.
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For a little variety, cooking class.

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>> No. 35366 [Edit]
I don't think they produced tanks during WW2. A cursory glance showed me they used by-then obsolete Soviet ones.
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When's the next episode?
>> No. 35745 [Edit]
1.5 - 2y since part 3 jsut released
>> No. 35769 [Edit]
Kouya no Kotobuki Hikoutai is better.

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34798 No. 34798 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
(By the Grace of the Gods)
Slime Rancher: The Animation. It's about a wagie who gets isekai'd into a little kid who takes care of a bunch of slimes and has stupidly high brute strength. There isn't much to say since the first episode just sets everything up but it's a nice little spin on isekai even if it can be called "just a gimmick" like most isekai.
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>> No. 34811 [Edit]
You can always do worse than loli. There's like gay shoujo isekai, it has gotten really ridiculous. Especially in print.
The design looks really cute at least.
>> No. 34812 [Edit]
>I'm not entirely sure but isn't isekai actually a relatively new term/genre?
In English, maybe, which is why nobody seems to understand its usage in English despite being an incredibly straightforward term. Rayearth constantly uses the term 「異世界の少女たち」to refer to the heroines. There's some narrative convenience in having a protagonist that's as unfamiliar with the world as the viewer is, so there's always at least that reason if nothing else.

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>> No. 35762 [Edit]
This one got me to start getting creeped out by isekai escapism.
It now feels like religious propaganda for downtrodden people. It's too obvious and as a result, depressing.
>> No. 35768 [Edit]
>isn't isekai actually a relatively new term/genree
As in stories about people from the real world finding themselves in a fantastical one? I'd say that's literally ancient.

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