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No. 2662 Stickied hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
A new addition to the Tohno-chan board lineup. Call it a gift for the holiday season:日本/

This board is meant to be an immersion board for non-native Japanese speakers and people learning Japanese, as it's a popular language to learn on the site, and given our social abilities, reading comprehension is a bit more important to us.

We'll run this on a trial basis, and if it's any good, we'll add it to the main boards.
>> No. 2728 [Edit]
You can install japanese language support as well as input the japanese IME keyboard setting to your computer in order to write japanese without having a proper jap keyboard.

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I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my stylistic taste here:

//Bad writing:
From the right sunlight poured through wide arched windows set in the outer walls, the glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines. The sky outside was bright blue, laced with frills of white cloud; sunlight bringing out the bright green of the grassland, the red brick of the coastal buildings and setting the sea a-sparkle as though strewn with star dust.

//Good writing:
It was the sort of morning who's beauty you actually take a few seconds to notice.
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>> No. 2714 [Edit]
Is it effective, though?

Personally I don't think 'effective' means 'as detailed as possible', instead it means 'describing as powerfully as possible with as few words as possible'.
As such I think the second example could be considered 'effective' because although it's not as detailed, it makes a much stronger emotional connection with the reader.
>> No. 2718 [Edit]
I'm not a native english speaker but shouldn't it be whose instead of who's?
>> No. 2719 [Edit]
That's right. "Who's" means "who is". You can check at if you're ever in doubt. The OP no doubt knows this, it's just a tiny mistake everyone makes when writing fast on the keyboard. For instance, I wrote "their" instead of "they're" down below. Oops.

As for the topic: I don't like either. Their both way to artsy to be taken seriously, and neither convey much of anything in my opinion. Sure, I'm all about short and descriptive descriptions of visuals. Keyword: descriptive.

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>> No. 2749 [Edit]
>glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines
There are a few excerpts I'm fond of, but it's ultimately nothing groundbreaking. The latter example is just forgettable, even platitudinous.

"Conventions" in writing are only useful when you operate with the explicit goal of making your work accessible to the broadest possible audience. The fewer words and simple language precepts are utterly arbitrary when taken as artistic standards, seeing utility only relative to the aforementioned purpose. It's analogous to believing visual arts should resign themselves to realist themes because anything abstract can be too ambiguous or challenging.

There's absolutely nothing objectively "better" about a sample of text because it employs simpler language or fewer words. Anything can be appropriated or interpreted to be something of intellectual or artistic value.

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746 No. 746 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
If you're a student or ex-student, tell us what thing you're studying or used to study!

I'm a second year mining engineering student, although last year I was doing materials science. I transfered.
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>> No. 2720 [Edit]
>satisfactory results
I just botched 2 exams in a row, barely passing. What the fuck have I been doing up to this point? Not fucking studying alright! Get out of your little lazy-piece-of-shit bubble and start pulling your weight, alright?
>> No. 2721 [Edit]
Feel you man. Just as I thought I was getting the hang of this stuff and making progress I failed hard in the easiest of the non-introductory courses out of pure arrogance and laziness.
Hopefully it will not delay my graduation much more than it already is.
>> No. 2733 [Edit]
Computer Science.
Network Engineering.
Electrical Engineer.

Didn't finish more than 1-2 years on any.
I'm currently living at my mother's place near a music school where I get free lessons for piano. Not that I'll make myself into anything.
>> No. 2748 [Edit]
second year electrical engineering

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2647 No. 2647 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Let us talk about philosophy. I read quite a bit of it and have also gotten deeply into mysticism, theology and psychoanalysis.

Existentialism - Main point is that humans are entirely responsible for themselves, which I do agree with, but the central claim is that God does not exist (and if he did, it wouldn't matter); this I think more or less is a fatal flaw, by ignoring the ultimate and the unknowable. However, I will say that I find Sartre's usage of psychoanalysis to be very interesting.

Nihilism - I don't know all that much about it, but I still like it a lot more than Existentialism. The idea of looking into the darkness and seeing the entirety of everything, rather than realizing that there is nothing, very much appeals to me. I also like Nietzsche's idea that man is constanly striving to reach the level of God, which I think is basically true.

Process Philosophy - I really like the works of Whitehead. I think that the philosophy is basically true, but needs to be refined. I'm in the process of doing that right now, although I still have to gain a few more levels in the philosophy realm.

That is all I can think of for now. Feel free to discuss philosophy.
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>> No. 2729 [Edit]
It argues in favor of living naturally. What exactly is natural life?
>> No. 2730 [Edit]
I'm not smart enough to follow philosophy, excepting the occasional phrase.
Even if I were, what would it matter? There is no meaning, no truth, nothing to live for. At least for someone as unremarkable as me. Why should I burden myself with reading things that will still give no solution to suffering? And every idea I have ever had has been said more precisely by people far more intelligent than I could ever hope to be. So why am I bothering with this since this has been said by pretty much every person who ever existed. I'm so so so sick of existence. I hate everything. Fuck.
>> No. 2731 [Edit]
Philosophers gave different solutions to suffering. Some of them agreed with one solution (from myriads of solution). It's death. It's an important subject to discuss.

Some argued that there are two deaths, conceivably speaking. The first is the usual real, biological death. It's unremarkable because, well, if I die why the fuck should I care? The question just stops there and no more. The second is 'death' in a more sinister sense. For instance, we can still 'live' while being 'dead' at the same time. I'm experiencing a living death, as a zombie or something. 'Dying inside', as one commonly puts it. My hand moves on its own, my emotion comes out itself. I pretend that I'm still living, when to be honest I've been dead since a long time ago. I'm the Hamlet (idiot version) who chose 'not-be', instead of 'to be' or 'not to be' in the face of suffering. A fictional suffering; fictional, because it takes an idiot megalomaniac like me to perceive that this bare universe is somehow against me and my life.

But how is it possible that many other people are as idiotic and megalomaniac like me, as each of them suffer the same 'living death' as me? Let us suppose that there is society, in a general term. Is it then conceivable to think of a society which consists of generic idiocy and megalomania as its characteristics? I'd like to think of it for a moment. Maybe you can help me. I'm dying here. (And I can imagine Elliot Rodger laughing sarcastically at me, saying something like 'ha ha I was right!', and so on.)
>> No. 2747 [Edit]
Please bear in mind I have had no formal philosophy courses or research.
It sounds odd, but lately I have been thinking a lot more about the belief that we all have a spiritual energy of sorts that we can give to the world around us. By giving to and appreciating something, the object/animal/character gains value that it didn't have before. For example, without somebody there to appreciate it, a mountain is just a giant convex rock. However once I lay eyes on it and see the beauty, the mountain is now a breathtaking landscape.
The same thing goes for people. Nobody can give themselves value unless somebody else recognizes it and gives praise. In my opinion, setting goals "for yourself" is meaningless. Everybody does it so somebody else will notice and admire it. Please point out holes and stuff if you can, because I want to improve my theory.

No. 2725 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
So I wrote a thing and put it on

Tell me what you think about it.
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>> No. 2743 [Edit]

Try to better me then, faggot.
>> No. 2744 [Edit]
Take it easy!
>> No. 2745 [Edit]

Good idea. I let the insult get to my head a little more than I should have.

I'm still going to write. I'm going to write another thing soon, but it will be a short work of fiction focusing on esoteric spirituality. I'll share it here, if you guys want.
>> No. 2746 [Edit]
Don't feed the troll.

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So, what books do you currently reading?

I'm reading Murakami Haruki - 1Q84.

I'm halfway through and I think it's okay, but pretty weak for a Murakami. Maybe I was just expecting too much, because I haven't read anything from him in a long time. But hell, it's still enjoyable.
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>> No. 2699 [Edit]
Currently reading "The House on the Borderlands."
I can see why Lovecraft was so inspired by it. The indefinite horror which it instills in the reader really knocks the socks off of the Gothic horrors which preceded it.
>> No. 2734 [Edit]
I just finished The Good Earth. There was some decent payoff at the end but I'm not sure what the book was about, apart from THE LAND. Apparently the series continues but I've had enough.

Started reading Sand by Hugh Howey.
>> No. 2736 [Edit]
my tooth hurts

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Anybody feel like sharing some of your favourite quotes (preferably /mt/-related but doesn't have to be)?

Here's one I rather like: "It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation which is truly the most important time in your life."

-Lewis Wolpert (developmental biologist)-
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>> No. 2635 [Edit]

Not necessarily *at heart* - reread the quote.
>> No. 2652 [Edit]
"Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand."

"Blessedness is not the reward of virtue but virtue itself."

- Baruch Spinoza
>> No. 2722 [Edit]
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The performance of an Art demands complete self-denial... It was not meant as a joke what I just said... about sacrifices...

Following a rather short adolescence, I became an ordinary young man, tolerable but no more. At that moment in my life I began to think and to write music. Oh yes. Wretched idea!... very wretched idea! It certainly was, for I lost no time in developing an unpleasant (original) originality, irrelevant, anti-French, unnatural, etc... Then life became so impossible for me that I resolved to retire to my estates and pass the rest of my days in an ivory tower - or one of some other (metallic) metal. That is why I acquired a taste for misanthropy; why I nurtured hypochondria; why I became the most (leaden-like) miserable of men. It distressed people to look at me - even through hall-marked gold eye-glasses. Oh yes. And all this happened to me because of music. That art has done me more harm that good, really: it has made me quarrel with people of quality, most honourable, more-than-distinguished, terribly genteel people. Let us pass on. I shall come back to this subject later.

--- Erik Satie ("The true musician")
>> No. 2732 [Edit]
"The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dûm.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep."

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1545 No. 1545 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think it would be nice to have a thread where we document things that we've learned as we learn them.
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>> No. 1742 [Edit]
Using simple vector math, I can test for intersection between a ray and a circle.

It's not foolproof, though, and it only works in two dimensions.
>> No. 1744 [Edit]
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I finally learned what's a "business process".
Also, could you please recommend a good book on management?
>> No. 1811 [Edit]
you know how you can add two binary numbers with XOR gate ( A x NOT B + NOT A x B ) . does set theory can be aplicable to explain this ?

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>> No. 2713 [Edit]
Today I learned how to iron my clothes properly.
It's actually very satisfying watching the creases disappear.

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2562 No. 2562 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Can we have a serious discussion about the Jews? I am currently reading David Duke's Jewish Supremacism and it is some really compelling stuff. Very challenging.

Please, no discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; that would constitute political discussion as opposed to an ethnic one.
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>> No. 2678 [Edit]
has antisemitism become accepted in the otaku community ?
>> No. 2679 [Edit]
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The Jews fear the Samurai,.
>> No. 2680 [Edit]
lol, what's that?
>> No. 2704 [Edit]
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In his defense, those quotes are taken out of context

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In in effort to help those that are in the midst of learning Japanese, this will be thread where we will speak only Japanese and will help each by correcting each others mistakes. 

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>> No. 2208 [Edit]
What is the difference between すら and さえ? The question was answered here but I can't read the response.
>> No. 2378 [Edit]
How long and how intensively have you guys been studying Japanese, and how far along in the learning process do you feel yourselves to be?
I studied the grammar for a bit while working on other languages at the same time, but now I'm focusing heavily on improving my German while learning Japanese characters in this way
I sit down with my pencil, my notebook, and P.G. O'Neill's Essential Kanji: 2,000 Basic Japanese Characters Systematically Arranged for Learning and Reference. I write out 25 characters, using the correct stroke order, with ON readings in katakana and kun readings in hiragana, and with the older/lesser used variants of the character in parentheses, if available. I work on German, or Math for a bit, then go back and write out the next 25 characters in the set of 50 I have my eyes set on. I write out this set 5 times before moving onto the next one, and by the end I'm ALWAYS able to write out the character with the correct stroke order, readings, meanings, and variants just by glancing at it. I continue in this fashion.
Unfortunately, as I was hitting the 400 mark during December (I haven't been doing this very long), I was slapped in the face with some serious depression, and was unable to do any characters consistently for a while. I decided to start again from the beginning fairly recently. But enough about me.

How are you guys?

Also, would any of you be interested in having a competition to see who could reach spoken fluency the fastest?
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>> No. 2700 [Edit]
OK, I need help.

I want to translate:

"Everyone's peace entails nobody's existence"

I REALLY suck at this and the best I could articulate was: 皆の平和誰も存在しないが伴う (mina no heiwa dare mo sonzaishinai ga tomonau). I'm positive that it's most likely wrong, so could anyone please help me?

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31 No. 31 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Just putting this out there: theres a very good selection of lecture notes and other assorted materials provided for free, online by MIT. This website is very good if you want to self-study a subject, get a feel for particular courses or just learn things as a hobby.

While we're at it, why not make this thread a place where we can share academic resources?
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>> No. 2222 [Edit]
I come with double intentions.
First to contribute to the thread with this page which offers editions of early modern philosopher's texts in a more acessible language to the contemporary reader:
Secondly, to ask for someone more well versed in philosophy their opinion on the general quality of those adaptations. I've been reading Descartes both through this and the original english translation the editor says he based his version on and everything seems okay, but since I'm a complete newbie to this philosophy business and english isn't my mother tongue...

Now for other goodies: - Not sure if it's mentioned in >>2100's image already, but I found this by accident one of this days and looks quite good. It seems more formal on the grammar part than most other material around and has classical japanese lessons too.
- Another one I found by accident. Looks quite ancient, but might be useful for collecting references for further reading.
>> No. 2224 [Edit]

I would avoid any alterations to philosophical texts if possible. Just stick with unabridged translations of texts into your language or English.
>> No. 2666 [Edit]
MIT Open Course Ware:
>> No. 2677 [Edit]

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