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Recent News Post: Ch-ch-ch-changes by Noto - 2nd Jul 2014
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A new addition to the Tohno-chan board lineup. Call it a gift for the holiday season:日本/

This board is meant to be an immersion board for non-native Japanese speakers and people learning Japanese, as it's a popular language to learn on the site, and given our social abilities, reading comprehension is a bit more important to us.

We'll run this on a trial basis, and if it's any good, we'll add it to the main boards.

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Anybody feel like sharing some of your favourite quotes (preferably /mt/-related but doesn't have to be)?

Here's one I rather like: "It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation which is truly the most important time in your life."

-Lewis Wolpert (developmental biologist)-
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"As for me I would rather
be a worm in a wild apple, than a son of man
but we are what we are and we might remember
Not to hate any person, for all are vicious
And not be astonished at any evil, all are deserved
And not fear death; it is the only way to be cleansed." - Robinson Jeffers

but let us part fair foes; I do believe
though i have found them not, that there may be
words which are things, hopes which will not decieve,
and virtues which are merciful nor weave
snares for the failing: i would also deem
o'er others' griefs that some sincerely grieve;
that two, or one, are almost what they seem," - Lord Byron

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>> No. 2635 [Edit]

Not necessarily *at heart* - reread the quote.
>> No. 2652 [Edit]
"Do not weep; do not wax indignant. Understand."

"Blessedness is not the reward of virtue but virtue itself."

- Baruch Spinoza
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The performance of an Art demands complete self-denial... It was not meant as a joke what I just said... about sacrifices...

Following a rather short adolescence, I became an ordinary young man, tolerable but no more. At that moment in my life I began to think and to write music. Oh yes. Wretched idea!... very wretched idea! It certainly was, for I lost no time in developing an unpleasant (original) originality, irrelevant, anti-French, unnatural, etc... Then life became so impossible for me that I resolved to retire to my estates and pass the rest of my days in an ivory tower - or one of some other (metallic) metal. That is why I acquired a taste for misanthropy; why I nurtured hypochondria; why I became the most (leaden-like) miserable of men. It distressed people to look at me - even through hall-marked gold eye-glasses. Oh yes. And all this happened to me because of music. That art has done me more harm that good, really: it has made me quarrel with people of quality, most honourable, more-than-distinguished, terribly genteel people. Let us pass on. I shall come back to this subject later.

--- Erik Satie ("The true musician")

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I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my stylistic taste here:

//Bad writing:
From the right sunlight poured through wide arched windows set in the outer walls, the glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines. The sky outside was bright blue, laced with frills of white cloud; sunlight bringing out the bright green of the grassland, the red brick of the coastal buildings and setting the sea a-sparkle as though strewn with star dust.

//Good writing:
It was the sort of morning who's beauty you actually take a few seconds to notice.
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>> No. 446 [Edit]
I personally don't like lengthy descriptions of scenery, but at least the "bad" example effectively paints a picture. The "good" example, taken on its own, looks like high-school writing that thinks it's cleverer than it is.
>> No. 2714 [Edit]
Is it effective, though?

Personally I don't think 'effective' means 'as detailed as possible', instead it means 'describing as powerfully as possible with as few words as possible'.
As such I think the second example could be considered 'effective' because although it's not as detailed, it makes a much stronger emotional connection with the reader.
>> No. 2718 [Edit]
I'm not a native english speaker but shouldn't it be whose instead of who's?
>> No. 2719 [Edit]
That's right. "Who's" means "who is". You can check at if you're ever in doubt. The OP no doubt knows this, it's just a tiny mistake everyone makes when writing fast on the keyboard. For instance, I wrote "their" instead of "they're" down below. Oops.

As for the topic: I don't like either. Their both way to artsy to be taken seriously, and neither convey much of anything in my opinion. Sure, I'm all about short and descriptive descriptions of visuals. Keyword: descriptive.

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If you're a student or ex-student, tell us what thing you're studying or used to study!

I'm a second year mining engineering student, although last year I was doing materials science. I transfered.
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>> No. 2715 [Edit]
I took classes starting a few months after posting this. I was going for an associate's in Network Engineering along with a couple certificates. I dropped out as of last month. More accurately, I gave up and failed out.
>> No. 2716 [Edit]
Network engineering is a nightmare of you ask me.
>> No. 2720 [Edit]
>satisfactory results
I just botched 2 exams in a row, barely passing. What the fuck have I been doing up to this point? Not fucking studying alright! Get out of your little lazy-piece-of-shit bubble and start pulling your weight, alright?
>> No. 2721 [Edit]
Feel you man. Just as I thought I was getting the hang of this stuff and making progress I failed hard in the easiest of the non-introductory courses out of pure arrogance and laziness.
Hopefully it will not delay my graduation much more than it already is.

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1545 No. 1545 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think it would be nice to have a thread where we document things that we've learned as we learn them.
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>> No. 1742 [Edit]
Using simple vector math, I can test for intersection between a ray and a circle.

It's not foolproof, though, and it only works in two dimensions.
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I finally learned what's a "business process".
Also, could you please recommend a good book on management?
>> No. 1811 [Edit]
you know how you can add two binary numbers with XOR gate ( A x NOT B + NOT A x B ) . does set theory can be aplicable to explain this ?

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>> No. 2713 [Edit]
Today I learned how to iron my clothes properly.
It's actually very satisfying watching the creases disappear.

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2340 No. 2340 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Let's turn this thread into a browser war!
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>> No. 2710 [Edit]
And now we know the real reason Brendan was fired. What a fucking joke. Mitchell should be lynched.
>> No. 2711 [Edit]
I'm far too lazy to read that all and I don't know what it means. So I'm going to assume that it's bad and eventually switch to Pale Moon.
>> No. 2712 [Edit]

This makes switching pretty easy if you're going to
>> No. 2717 [Edit]
I wasn't expecting this, which is why I'm late, but thank you very much!

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2647 No. 2647 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Let us talk about philosophy. I read quite a bit of it and have also gotten deeply into mysticism, theology and psychoanalysis.

Existentialism - Main point is that humans are entirely responsible for themselves, which I do agree with, but the central claim is that God does not exist (and if he did, it wouldn't matter); this I think more or less is a fatal flaw, by ignoring the ultimate and the unknowable. However, I will say that I find Sartre's usage of psychoanalysis to be very interesting.

Nihilism - I don't know all that much about it, but I still like it a lot more than Existentialism. The idea of looking into the darkness and seeing the entirety of everything, rather than realizing that there is nothing, very much appeals to me. I also like Nietzsche's idea that man is constanly striving to reach the level of God, which I think is basically true.

Process Philosophy - I really like the works of Whitehead. I think that the philosophy is basically true, but needs to be refined. I'm in the process of doing that right now, although I still have to gain a few more levels in the philosophy realm.

That is all I can think of for now. Feel free to discuss philosophy.
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>> No. 2693 [Edit]
Have you ever seen In Treatment? At a certain point (right before announcing that he has lost all faith in his profession and is going to quit), Paul Weston says:

"Maybe any serious communication between two people is useless. Even when they're outright lying, people only hear what they really want to hear or what they're capable of hearing, which often holds very little resemblance with what is actually said... [So] I can't tell what is real."

I've found this to be probably the most important and persistent problem within the human condition. Not injustice, not violence, not the failure of any meaningful category but the problem of them computing at all; the problem of communication; the problem of language, as an alleged bridge between one and the others, between one and the world (don't even get me started against perception, empirism and such). It is precisely because communication and language are central to me, that I have taken them as subjects of study (rather than taking them for granted) and so can't disregard neither their inner problems, nor the conclusions about our experience that apparently more accurate models of their structure seem to entail (key word: structuralism... and its limits).

>Would the "true" you become only a winner of mind games and not much else?
If you followed me in the least, you'd see the most we can ever achieve is awareness and control over the games that our mind plays to us, for it's all we'll ever get to know (as humans; therefore, optimistically enough, I'm now a transhumanist).
>> No. 2694 [Edit]
So you wouldn't believe it's possible to follow your train of thought without coming to the same conclusions that you did?
>> No. 2698 [Edit]
No, it's actually far worse than that: due to the aforementioned equivocal functioning of language, I have no means to tell if anyone has ever truly followed me, either if they agree (and thus are able to reproduce what I say and explain it back acceptably) or disagree (and thus are capable of refuting me); all I can do is derive judgements exclusively from my own interpretations of what they say (as always)...

But don't sweat it. In that case, I just played with >>2689's derogatory calling of schools of thought as "mind games" to tell him that he should distrust the games of his own mind as well.
>> No. 2706 [Edit]
I've become interested in Stoicism recently, I used to be interested in objectivism but I dropped it after the Is Ought issue. Is there any inherent problems with stoicism?

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This thread is computer/technology related, so /mt/ is probably the best place to post it.

Anyway, to the point. I've been hearing many rumours that the soon to come Windows 8 will have forced "Live integration", which means (you guessed it), forcing you to register on Live before being able to use the OS. From that moment on, I realized that Microsoft will either fail completely as a Software manufacturer or the oblivious masses will bend over. To my (almost expected) disappointment, it is the latter. The masses will accept this as they have done so far. I'm talking about the social networking shoved in people's faces everywhere. You can't go to a large website without seeing facebook and twitter links everywhere. Hell, even online gaming has turned into one big social network (see Steam, Xbox Live, etc.)

The question I pose is, what's next? Requirement to have your real name visible everywhere you post? Or maybe forced cloud computing? Web 2.0? Seems likely.

They're already putting tracking devices in smart phones:

And don't get me started on the backdoors they've put in proprietary software.

Well, this concludes my pointless post. Any thoughts?
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>> No. 2645 [Edit]
>why the fuck are you posting youtube comments?
to have fun with the funny, troll the stupid and salute the praiseworthy of course, what else? youtube comments could make for fun mini-threads sometimes. not anymore, though, with all those fugly real names and avatar pics there.

at niconico I always felt like a foreigner (maybe cause I am).

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>> No. 2701 [Edit]
So I kinda just found out about this:

Video of it if you don't want to read. 3DPD warning.

Typical government business.

Holy shit.
>> No. 2705 [Edit]
Digression: Thanks to my receding anxiety I have been able to deal with this just fine. I still use an overly secure browser (because I haven't bothered to change it), but it's very nice to just use the internet freely without freaking out over things like this, as I normally would.

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Can we have a serious discussion about the Jews? I am currently reading David Duke's Jewish Supremacism and it is some really compelling stuff. Very challenging.

Please, no discussion of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict; that would constitute political discussion as opposed to an ethnic one.
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>> No. 2678 [Edit]
has antisemitism become accepted in the otaku community ?
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The Jews fear the Samurai,.
>> No. 2680 [Edit]
lol, what's that?
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In his defense, those quotes are taken out of context

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So, what books do you currently reading?

I'm reading Murakami Haruki - 1Q84.

I'm halfway through and I think it's okay, but pretty weak for a Murakami. Maybe I was just expecting too much, because I haven't read anything from him in a long time. But hell, it's still enjoyable.
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I just finished Julian by Gore Vidal. This guy is a great writer, and Julian is a pretty great novel, an interesting look at one of the most controversial figures in world history.

As the "last pagan emperor" of Rome, Julian was basically an introverted bookish kid who ended up unexpectedly becoming emperor in the 4th century. He's best known for trying to destroy the power of Christianity in the Roman Empire and to restore the old Greco-Roman religion, and all after his grandfather Constantine the Great made Christianity the state religion.

The book isn't dry at all - it's really exciting, full of intrigue and all that kind of stuff. If you like historical fiction, get it. The only criticism I can give is that Vidal does seem to have a pro-Julian bent - but only slightly, because he does address some of the more persecutory stuff the emperor did against Christians in his short rule. Julian himself took a serious beating from Roman Christian historians after his death, so maybe a little bent in the other direction isn't a bad thing, anyway.
>> No. 2681 [Edit]
Had to delete this becuase I got some copyright C&D complainant about it.
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>> No. 2699 [Edit]
Currently reading "The House on the Borderlands."
I can see why Lovecraft was so inspired by it. The indefinite horror which it instills in the reader really knocks the socks off of the Gothic horrors which preceded it.

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In in effort to help those that are in the midst of learning Japanese, this will be thread where we will speak only Japanese and will help each by correcting each others mistakes. 

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>> No. 2208 [Edit]
What is the difference between すら and さえ? The question was answered here but I can't read the response.
>> No. 2378 [Edit]
How long and how intensively have you guys been studying Japanese, and how far along in the learning process do you feel yourselves to be?
I studied the grammar for a bit while working on other languages at the same time, but now I'm focusing heavily on improving my German while learning Japanese characters in this way
I sit down with my pencil, my notebook, and P.G. O'Neill's Essential Kanji: 2,000 Basic Japanese Characters Systematically Arranged for Learning and Reference. I write out 25 characters, using the correct stroke order, with ON readings in katakana and kun readings in hiragana, and with the older/lesser used variants of the character in parentheses, if available. I work on German, or Math for a bit, then go back and write out the next 25 characters in the set of 50 I have my eyes set on. I write out this set 5 times before moving onto the next one, and by the end I'm ALWAYS able to write out the character with the correct stroke order, readings, meanings, and variants just by glancing at it. I continue in this fashion.
Unfortunately, as I was hitting the 400 mark during December (I haven't been doing this very long), I was slapped in the face with some serious depression, and was unable to do any characters consistently for a while. I decided to start again from the beginning fairly recently. But enough about me.

How are you guys?

Also, would any of you be interested in having a competition to see who could reach spoken fluency the fastest?
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>> No. 2700 [Edit]
OK, I need help.

I want to translate:

"Everyone's peace entails nobody's existence"

I REALLY suck at this and the best I could articulate was: 皆の平和誰も存在しないが伴う (mina no heiwa dare mo sonzaishinai ga tomonau). I'm positive that it's most likely wrong, so could anyone please help me?

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