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No. 2662 Stickied hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
A new addition to the Tohno-chan board lineup. Call it a gift for the holiday season:日本/

This board is meant to be an immersion board for non-native Japanese speakers and people learning Japanese, as it's a popular language to learn on the site, and given our social abilities, reading comprehension is a bit more important to us.

We'll run this on a trial basis, and if it's any good, we'll add it to the main boards.
>> No. 2728 [Edit]
You can install japanese language support as well as input the japanese IME keyboard setting to your computer in order to write japanese without having a proper jap keyboard.

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823 No. 823 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Anybody here trying or planning on learning a language?

Japanese is already covered here:

So this thread is not about learning Japanese in particular, but things like what you've learned from learning Japanese that can be applied to other languages is welcome.

Anyone trying to learn Spanish? French? Mandarin? I'm interested in what you want to learn and how far you've gotten in your quest.
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>> No. 1181 [Edit]
They are the same language, technically Afrikaans is also the same language although it's a very old dialect.
>> No. 2377 [Edit]
Japanese has no declensions.
Afrikaans is not the same language as Dutch. Dutch speakers can understand Afrikaans perfectly, but Afrikaans speakers can't understand Dutch very well.
For those of you truly interested in language learning, here:
his website:
Educate yourselves.
>> No. 2859 [Edit]
I'm learning german.

I have a book that covers the passive learning phase, and a grammar book to not learn mistakes.

Those learning books can get you pretty bad habits that are hard to get rid of. Like making assumptions and use incorrect declension forms.
>> No. 2860 [Edit]
I'm learning Latin so I can make my own profound mottos and sayings.

The Ecclesiastical Latin sounds trigger my autism.

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2841 No. 2841 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Anyone else studying it?
I just want to talk to someone ._.
Any university students here?

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>> No. 2850 [Edit]
Sup, /mt. I'm found of computer science and anything computer-related, so i just wanted to know is there any must-read books about that all?
>> No. 2851 [Edit]
9 in 10 people who never read SICP agree that SICP is a must-read.
Coincidentially, 9 in 10 of those who did also agree.
>> No. 2855 [Edit]
Tutorial pages for things that interest you, manuals... high-rated tutorial and theory books...

I'm a self-taught programmer and it's kinda a bummer, most NEETs online don't ever collaborate on code.
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OP here, thought I'd give an update.
An app A for purpose X was meh so I decided to make my own, dedicated ~4 weeks to its development. The app A got updated recently though and is pretty good while mine isn't anywhere close to being finished.
Got no choice but to keep on going, too late to start a new project.

No. 2725 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
So I wrote a thing and put it on

Tell me what you think about it.
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>> No. 2746 [Edit]
Don't feed the troll.
>> No. 2772 [Edit]
I wrote another thing:

Tell me what you think.
>> No. 2837 [Edit]
Wrote another:

Just when I thought I couldn't write this shit anymore, I ended up becoming more inspired in the end.
>> No. 2857 [Edit]
Another thing wrote:

It talks about how there is no meaning to life.

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1545 No. 1545 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think it would be nice to have a thread where we document things that we've learned as we learn them.
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>> No. 2839 [Edit]
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the russian alphabet
>> No. 2840 [Edit]
I'm interested in economics as well but I'm always too lazy to actually study it.

From what I know of Sowell, that probably isn't the most unbiased introductory book to economics.

What I probably would do is read Wikipedia to get some basic knowledge, and then read the most well known and important works starting from Adam Smith.
>> No. 2852 [Edit]
if you really learned, you'd know it's called the cryllic alphabet
>> No. 2856 [Edit]
Try Das Kapital commentaries.

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746 No. 746 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
If you're a student or ex-student, tell us what thing you're studying or used to study!

I'm a second year mining engineering student, although last year I was doing materials science. I transfered.
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>> No. 2733 [Edit]
Computer Science.
Network Engineering.
Electrical Engineer.

Didn't finish more than 1-2 years on any.
I'm currently living at my mother's place near a music school where I get free lessons for piano. Not that I'll make myself into anything.
>> No. 2748 [Edit]
second year electrical engineering
>> No. 2853 [Edit]
I wasted my freshman year on sign language interpreting only to find out it really wasn't the thing for me. Now I'm planning on changing majors. It's not very academic, but I'm planning on going for the HVAC degree at my college. It's very hands-on. You need more tools than books, and I feel it's a much more practical thing to learn.
I'm not dead set on this yet though. I'm also considering audio recording or radio and TV.
>> No. 2854 [Edit]
Going to be a Philosophy Bachelor soon, oh boy!

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156 No. 156 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my stylistic taste here:

//Bad writing:
From the right sunlight poured through wide arched windows set in the outer walls, the glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines. The sky outside was bright blue, laced with frills of white cloud; sunlight bringing out the bright green of the grassland, the red brick of the coastal buildings and setting the sea a-sparkle as though strewn with star dust.

//Good writing:
It was the sort of morning who's beauty you actually take a few seconds to notice.
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>> No. 2718 [Edit]
I'm not a native english speaker but shouldn't it be whose instead of who's?
>> No. 2719 [Edit]
That's right. "Who's" means "who is". You can check at if you're ever in doubt. The OP no doubt knows this, it's just a tiny mistake everyone makes when writing fast on the keyboard. For instance, I wrote "their" instead of "they're" down below. Oops.

As for the topic: I don't like either. Their both way to artsy to be taken seriously, and neither convey much of anything in my opinion. Sure, I'm all about short and descriptive descriptions of visuals. Keyword: descriptive.

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>> No. 2749 [Edit]
>glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines
There are a few excerpts I'm fond of, but it's ultimately nothing groundbreaking. The latter example is just forgettable, even platitudinous.

"Conventions" in writing are only useful when you operate with the explicit goal of making your work accessible to the broadest possible audience. The fewer words and simple language precepts are utterly arbitrary when taken as artistic standards, seeing utility only relative to the aforementioned purpose. It's analogous to believing visual arts should resign themselves to realist themes because anything abstract can be too ambiguous or challenging.

There's absolutely nothing objectively "better" about a sample of text because it employs simpler language or fewer words. Anything can be appropriated or interpreted to be something of intellectual or artistic value.
>> No. 2836 [Edit]
> The OP no doubt knows this, it's just a tiny mistake everyone makes when writing fast on the keyboard. For instance, I wrote "their" instead of "they're" down below. Oops.


People attacking my typos on chans has seriously done more to improve my grammar and proofreading than every writing class I've ever taken. There is nothing more infuriating than having a bunch of strangers ignore your ideas and nitpick some silly mistake you made while typing; however, every time I notice someone else do it I attack them without fail. Seriously, though, I read through everything I write six or seven times before hitting "reply" because I'm so shell-shocked from this.

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2647 No. 2647 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Let us talk about philosophy. I read quite a bit of it and have also gotten deeply into mysticism, theology and psychoanalysis.

Existentialism - Main point is that humans are entirely responsible for themselves, which I do agree with, but the central claim is that God does not exist (and if he did, it wouldn't matter); this I think more or less is a fatal flaw, by ignoring the ultimate and the unknowable. However, I will say that I find Sartre's usage of psychoanalysis to be very interesting.

Nihilism - I don't know all that much about it, but I still like it a lot more than Existentialism. The idea of looking into the darkness and seeing the entirety of everything, rather than realizing that there is nothing, very much appeals to me. I also like Nietzsche's idea that man is constanly striving to reach the level of God, which I think is basically true.

Process Philosophy - I really like the works of Whitehead. I think that the philosophy is basically true, but needs to be refined. I'm in the process of doing that right now, although I still have to gain a few more levels in the philosophy realm.

That is all I can think of for now. Feel free to discuss philosophy.
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>> No. 2830 [Edit]

Ideally, you should take into consideration the experiences of others as well as your own. There is no need to choose one over the other.
>> No. 2831 [Edit]
Does old, white men intimidate you?
>> No. 2832 [Edit]
He knows he will never be nearly as intelligent as those old white men that lived centuries ago.
>> No. 2835 [Edit]
Fools learn from experience, the wise learn from history.
---Urobuchi-butchered Bismarck

PROTIP: this last statement was extremely Hegelian and you could always counter strike it with Heidegger's or Sartre's existential ethics; they're from past century, white but not always old and definitely not bearded.

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2827 No. 2827 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
It's really hard to say whether something is good or bad without context. The second one is kind of awkward in how its worded, though that's obviously not the point you were trying to make here. Anyways, yeah, depends on context
>> No. 2833 [Edit]
I like this thread, I can't tell if you made a new thread by mistake, or if this post is some sort of self reference, in that you don't provide context, but make us question whether or not your post is bad because it lakes it. So I guess the context is that the quality relies on context being the context.

nice :D

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Anybody feel like sharing some of your favourite quotes (preferably /mt/-related but doesn't have to be)?

Here's one I rather like: "It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation which is truly the most important time in your life."

-Lewis Wolpert (developmental biologist)-
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>> No. 2775 [Edit]
An artist never works under ideal conditions. If they existed, his work wouldn't exist, for the artist doesn't live in a vacuum. Some sort of pressure must exist. The artist exists because the world is not perfect. Art would be useless if the world were perfect, as man wouldn't look for harmony but would simply live in it. Art is born out of an ill-designed world. [...] My purpose is to make films that will help people to live, even if they sometimes cause unhappiness.
---- Andrei Tarkovsky
>> No. 2813 [Edit]
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I wanted to die, really die.
But now I don't think we must die from despair, but feed off one's despair.
Not die of it, but live off it.
I believe we must live at all cost.

--- "L'Ennui" (1998)
>> No. 2822 [Edit]
Well, let's face it. Good exists in order to be fucked up by evil. The very existence of good enables evil to flourish. Therefore, God is bad. And it doesn't matter how many past or future existences you have, because they're all gonna be riddled with grief and anguish and sickness and death. You see, Brian, God doesn't love you. God despises you. So there's no hope, and mankind is just a component of the device by which the devil creates itself. You see, what I'm saying, basically, is you can't make an omelet without cracking a few eggs. And humanity is just a cracked egg. And the omelet... stinks.

---Johnny ("Naked", Mike Leigh)

>> No. 2824 [Edit]
My mind seems to go out on a path the width of a thread and of endless length, a thread that is the same color as the night. Out, out along the narrow highway sails my mind, driven by curiosity, luminous with acceptance, far and out, like a feathered hook whipped deep into the light above the stream by a magnificent cast. Somewhere, out of my reach, my control, the hook unbends into a spear, the spear shears itself into a needle, and the needle sews the world together. It sews skin onto the skeleton and lipstick on a lip, it sews scarves to mountain, it goes through everything like a relentless bloodstream, and the tunnel is filled with a comforting message, a beautiful knowledge of unity. All the disparates of the world, the different wings of the paradox, coin-faces of problem, petal-pulling questions, scissors-shaped conscience, all the polarities, things and their images and things which cast no shadow, and just the everyday explosions on a street, this face and that, a house and a toothache, explosions which merely have different letters in their names, my needle pierces it all, and I myself, my greedy fantasies, everything which has existed and does exist, we are part of a necklace of incomparable beauty and unmeaning.

--- Leonard Cohen ("Beautiful Losers")

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99 No. 99 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Today, December 25, we celebrate the birth of a great man of true genius. Regardless of the centuries, his example lives on and inspire us to become better, both as individuals and society. Let his name never be forgotten; picture very related: it's him.
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>> No. 2665 [Edit]
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Ye who now on heavenly nectar fare,
Come celebrate with me in song the name
Of Newton, to the Muses dear; for he
Unlocked the hidden treasuries of Truth:
So richly through his mind had Phoebus cast
The radiance of his own divinity.
Nearer the gods no mortal may approach.

---Edmond Halley
>> No. 2796 [Edit]
I hadn't forgot.
How could I.
>> No. 2809 [Edit]
That guy wasn't born in December, and he was completely delusional.
>> No. 2817 [Edit]
Cristianism as an institution is an entirely different affair (for that, Werner Jaegger's "Early Christianity and Greek Paideia" was quite enlightening). However, for many years I used to think very poorly of the character of Jesus too (who knows -and who cares- if he ever existed, I mean the character created in the gospels) until I saw this: >>/ot/23499 ...

I mean, I still didn't became a christian, by any means (I believe in conquer rather than charity), but he certainly earned a huge respect in my eyes. Aside from the myths of resurrection, Final Judgement and such, with his incredibly insightful yet accessible ethical discourse (notably the Sermon on the Mount) he embodies an impossible but beautiful dream of true brotherhood and unconditional love.

You should give the movie a try. It's long and hard to endure but I think it's worth it.

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