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No. 2662 Stickied hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
A new addition to the Tohno-chan board lineup. Call it a gift for the holiday season:日本/

This board is meant to be an immersion board for non-native Japanese speakers and people learning Japanese, as it's a popular language to learn on the site, and given our social abilities, reading comprehension is a bit more important to us.

We'll run this on a trial basis, and if it's any good, we'll add it to the main boards.
>> No. 2728 [Edit]
You can install japanese language support as well as input the japanese IME keyboard setting to your computer in order to write japanese without having a proper jap keyboard.

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99 No. 99 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Today, December 25, we celebrate the birth of a great man of true genius. Regardless of the centuries, his example lives on and inspire us to become better, both as individuals and society. Let his name never be forgotten; picture very related: it's him.
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>> No. 2325 [Edit]
Let's not forget that Isaac Newton was a religious fanatic.

Also, people say he had Asperger's, but it was probably related to him handling raw mercury.
>> No. 2327 [Edit]
>Let's not forget that Isaac Newton was a religious fanatic.
And so? Look at what he did from pursuing that faith (heretical arianism) troughout his entire work.
Apparently there can be more use in an imaginary god (or waifu) than in a talentless (and loveless) but oh so atheist neetdom (and I'm atheist myself; but who gives a fuck?).

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>> No. 2665 [Edit]
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Ye who now on heavenly nectar fare,
Come celebrate with me in song the name
Of Newton, to the Muses dear; for he
Unlocked the hidden treasuries of Truth:
So richly through his mind had Phoebus cast
The radiance of his own divinity.
Nearer the gods no mortal may approach.

---Edmond Halley
>> No. 2796 [Edit]
I hadn't forgot.
How could I.

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2647 No. 2647 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Let us talk about philosophy. I read quite a bit of it and have also gotten deeply into mysticism, theology and psychoanalysis.

Existentialism - Main point is that humans are entirely responsible for themselves, which I do agree with, but the central claim is that God does not exist (and if he did, it wouldn't matter); this I think more or less is a fatal flaw, by ignoring the ultimate and the unknowable. However, I will say that I find Sartre's usage of psychoanalysis to be very interesting.

Nihilism - I don't know all that much about it, but I still like it a lot more than Existentialism. The idea of looking into the darkness and seeing the entirety of everything, rather than realizing that there is nothing, very much appeals to me. I also like Nietzsche's idea that man is constanly striving to reach the level of God, which I think is basically true.

Process Philosophy - I really like the works of Whitehead. I think that the philosophy is basically true, but needs to be refined. I'm in the process of doing that right now, although I still have to gain a few more levels in the philosophy realm.

That is all I can think of for now. Feel free to discuss philosophy.
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>> No. 2781 [Edit]
Does it really have to be unstable, esoteric and weird though? Can't postmodernists just shift to a system that deals with contradictions a bit more gracefully instead of going full retard?

Also, pretty neat explanation. Reminded me I should study more algebraic logic.
>> No. 2786 [Edit]
>Can't postmodernists just shift to a system that deals with contradictions
Of course they can and they do! Heck, not just postmodernists: hardcore scientists do it (as they always did) on a daily basis, acting wildly pragmatic and idiosyncratic in their practice (using classical mechanics for launching rockets and quantum mechanics for the computers that collect the data). The epistemological point is to acknowledge that we're doing it, at least...

The problem, I think, is that maybe the ways I (or some philosophers) put it often come out as a luddite re-mystification of the world, while in fact is modernity going no brakes and full force: the hipermodernity, where even the last myth (the objectivity of scientific discourse) was debunked. It's not going back to the realm of unwarranted faith, but towards an extreme skepticism that leaves us only with hyper-specific universes of discourse (including interdisciplinary studies) and their respective truth-value systems.

Is this conclusion (that the pursuing of reality ended in its obliteration, that is, not its ending but the depriving of it) shocking and grotesque? By all means, yes. But it's ostensibly the way it happened and, rather than deny it, postmodernists try to come to terms with it and exploit it the best possible way.
>> No. 2793 [Edit]
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Btw, I fucked up before (as usual):

1x = x , of course.

If anything, 1+x=1 but the disjointness of union forbids it for x≠0, just like that x+x=x for all x or that x+0=x for x=0. Fortunately, I didn't use any of those in the previous proof; I did use that 1+0=1 but that has sense because 1(0)=0 (i.e. being and nothing are disjoint classes), which is obtainable from the same corrected iii:1x=x with x=0.
>> No. 2795 [Edit]
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Actually, x+0=x for x=0 too since 00=0 (obtainable from i:xx=x for x=0). I guess x+0=0 really stands for all x, which results pretty convenient; however, I still need a logical interpretation of -x alone.

I thought I could define:

x-y = x(1-y)

i.e. the difference between x and y as the intersection of x and the complementary class of y; it makes perfect sense and that way x-x=x(1-x)=0 ...but that would be using PC already, ruining my PI => PC proof. However, apart from that proof the definition apparently stands and from there maybe I could define:

-y = 1-y = 1(1-y)

i.e. the intersection between the universe and the complementary class of y; that way x-y=x(1-y) as well and I'd have a direct definition for all -x, allowing me to really use <{0,1},+,0> as an abelian group as I did in PC => PEM. However, what interests me the most is if PI => PC (so that ¬PC => ¬PI)...

I don't know. This isn't as easy as one could think and it's neither the first time I try to prove a logical implication (or even equivalence) between PI and PC. I tried to do it with contemporary 1st order logic and it seemed ok (pic related), before been completely torn out by an actually competent logician that reviewed it.

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2762 No. 2762 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is mathematics the only thing that exists?
>> No. 2763 [Edit]
Depends how you define mathematics.
>> No. 2765 [Edit]

And they have no physical reality, if that's what you meant.

Give this a check:
>> No. 2768 [Edit]
Interesting shit anon, thanks. Do you have any book recommendations in regards to mathematical philosophy? I've ordered principa mathematica for Christmas, but I'd like to learn more.
>> No. 2776 [Edit]
Here's one essay I recommend.

>This essay discusses the best current understanding of the relationship between mathematical and empirical knowledge. It focuses on two questions:
>1. Does mathematics have some sort of deep metaphysical connection with reality, and
>2. if not, why is it that mathematical abstractions seem so often to be so powerfully predictive in the real world?

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Anybody feel like sharing some of your favourite quotes (preferably /mt/-related but doesn't have to be)?

Here's one I rather like: "It is not birth, marriage, or death, but gastrulation which is truly the most important time in your life."

-Lewis Wolpert (developmental biologist)-
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The performance of an Art demands complete self-denial... It was not meant as a joke what I just said... about sacrifices...

Following a rather short adolescence, I became an ordinary young man, tolerable but no more. At that moment in my life I began to think and to write music. Oh yes. Wretched idea!... very wretched idea! It certainly was, for I lost no time in developing an unpleasant (original) originality, irrelevant, anti-French, unnatural, etc... Then life became so impossible for me that I resolved to retire to my estates and pass the rest of my days in an ivory tower - or one of some other (metallic) metal. That is why I acquired a taste for misanthropy; why I nurtured hypochondria; why I became the most (leaden-like) miserable of men. It distressed people to look at me - even through hall-marked gold eye-glasses. Oh yes. And all this happened to me because of music. That art has done me more harm that good, really: it has made me quarrel with people of quality, most honourable, more-than-distinguished, terribly genteel people. Let us pass on. I shall come back to this subject later.

--- Erik Satie ("The true musician")
>> No. 2732 [Edit]
"The world is grey, the mountains old,
The forge's fire is ashen-cold;
No harp is wrung, no hammer falls:
The darkness dwells in Durin's halls;
The shadow lies upon his tomb
In Moria, in Khazad-dûm.
But still the sunken stars appear
In dark and windless Mirrormere;
There lies his crown in water deep,
Till Durin wakes again from sleep."

>> No. 2774 [Edit]
If you're too focused on making something for everyone, you end up with something flat. Something that's accessible to everyone often ends up being nothing special at all. That's why I think it's best to push your own views and your own culture to the forefront of what you do, and that will end up being popular with a wider audience. That's really all you can do, anyway. ---Hideaki Anno
>> No. 2775 [Edit]
An artist never works under ideal conditions. If they existed, his work wouldn't exist, for the artist doesn't live in a vacuum. Some sort of pressure must exist. The artist exists because the world is not perfect. Art would be useless if the world were perfect, as man wouldn't look for harmony but would simply live in it. Art is born out of an ill-designed world. [...] My purpose is to make films that will help people to live, even if they sometimes cause unhappiness.
---- Andrei Tarkovsky

No. 2725 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
So I wrote a thing and put it on

Tell me what you think about it.
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>> No. 2744 [Edit]
Take it easy!
>> No. 2745 [Edit]

Good idea. I let the insult get to my head a little more than I should have.

I'm still going to write. I'm going to write another thing soon, but it will be a short work of fiction focusing on esoteric spirituality. I'll share it here, if you guys want.
>> No. 2746 [Edit]
Don't feed the troll.
>> No. 2772 [Edit]
I wrote another thing:

Tell me what you think.

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2757 No. 2757 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Simple question, would prefer simple or at least organized explanations:
What is an intellectual? How would an intellectual compare with the masses?

I find this interesting because I feel a good portion of tc is pretty intelligent at least compared to average, and yet they often seem to lack social and communication skills between each other. Then there's pure subjective ranting we see in /so/ compared to stuff based off studies here --
Does the act of referencing studies make someone more intellectual than others? When do these references become pretentious, disorderly, and excessive rather than informing?
>> No. 2758 [Edit]
The best I can think of giving you is Deleuze's reflections on "culture" and what does it mean to be a cultivated person:

In short, he says that despite the general opinion he doesn't consider himself to be a cultivated person, because all he learns he does it for a specific purpose (normally a book he was currently writing) and when it's done he just lets that knowledge go. Cultivated persons, for Deleuze, are those who have "reserve knowledge".

To add to it and if I remember correctly, Heidegger made the difference between authentic and inauthentic knowledge in a similar way: authentic knowledge is the one you have about a subject which "equipment" (das Zeug; a set of tools that serve to perform a specific task) you actually use, while inauthentic knowledge is the one you somehow get but make no direct use of; say, I have some knowledge of music and I do make music, thus that knowledge is authentic, whereas the knowledge I have about crack cocaine cooking is an inauthentic one as I don't do crack.

An intellectual, thus, could be a person who seemingly reeks of reserve or inauthentic knowledge. I personally don't think there's any particular relation between being an itellectual or not and socially competent or not.

For where a sort of pretentiousness threshold could lay, I'd personally think that is when people claim to know more than what they can actually backup, which is pretty much the dictionary definition of the term.

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1545 No. 1545 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think it would be nice to have a thread where we document things that we've learned as we learn them.
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>> No. 1744 [Edit]
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I finally learned what's a "business process".
Also, could you please recommend a good book on management?
>> No. 1811 [Edit]
you know how you can add two binary numbers with XOR gate ( A x NOT B + NOT A x B ) . does set theory can be aplicable to explain this ?

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>> No. 2713 [Edit]
Today I learned how to iron my clothes properly.
It's actually very satisfying watching the creases disappear.
>> No. 2756 [Edit]
I finally understand how vacuum cooling works.

I've clarified my understanding of the difference between heat and temperature as well as evaporation and boiling.

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I was wondering if anyone else agreed with my stylistic taste here:

//Bad writing:
From the right sunlight poured through wide arched windows set in the outer walls, the glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines. The sky outside was bright blue, laced with frills of white cloud; sunlight bringing out the bright green of the grassland, the red brick of the coastal buildings and setting the sea a-sparkle as though strewn with star dust.

//Good writing:
It was the sort of morning who's beauty you actually take a few seconds to notice.
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>> No. 2714 [Edit]
Is it effective, though?

Personally I don't think 'effective' means 'as detailed as possible', instead it means 'describing as powerfully as possible with as few words as possible'.
As such I think the second example could be considered 'effective' because although it's not as detailed, it makes a much stronger emotional connection with the reader.
>> No. 2718 [Edit]
I'm not a native english speaker but shouldn't it be whose instead of who's?
>> No. 2719 [Edit]
That's right. "Who's" means "who is". You can check at if you're ever in doubt. The OP no doubt knows this, it's just a tiny mistake everyone makes when writing fast on the keyboard. For instance, I wrote "their" instead of "they're" down below. Oops.

As for the topic: I don't like either. Their both way to artsy to be taken seriously, and neither convey much of anything in my opinion. Sure, I'm all about short and descriptive descriptions of visuals. Keyword: descriptive.

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>> No. 2749 [Edit]
>glass meshed with imprisoning square black lines
There are a few excerpts I'm fond of, but it's ultimately nothing groundbreaking. The latter example is just forgettable, even platitudinous.

"Conventions" in writing are only useful when you operate with the explicit goal of making your work accessible to the broadest possible audience. The fewer words and simple language precepts are utterly arbitrary when taken as artistic standards, seeing utility only relative to the aforementioned purpose. It's analogous to believing visual arts should resign themselves to realist themes because anything abstract can be too ambiguous or challenging.

There's absolutely nothing objectively "better" about a sample of text because it employs simpler language or fewer words. Anything can be appropriated or interpreted to be something of intellectual or artistic value.

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746 No. 746 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
If you're a student or ex-student, tell us what thing you're studying or used to study!

I'm a second year mining engineering student, although last year I was doing materials science. I transfered.
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>> No. 2720 [Edit]
>satisfactory results
I just botched 2 exams in a row, barely passing. What the fuck have I been doing up to this point? Not fucking studying alright! Get out of your little lazy-piece-of-shit bubble and start pulling your weight, alright?
>> No. 2721 [Edit]
Feel you man. Just as I thought I was getting the hang of this stuff and making progress I failed hard in the easiest of the non-introductory courses out of pure arrogance and laziness.
Hopefully it will not delay my graduation much more than it already is.
>> No. 2733 [Edit]
Computer Science.
Network Engineering.
Electrical Engineer.

Didn't finish more than 1-2 years on any.
I'm currently living at my mother's place near a music school where I get free lessons for piano. Not that I'll make myself into anything.
>> No. 2748 [Edit]
second year electrical engineering

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So, what books do you currently reading?

I'm reading Murakami Haruki - 1Q84.

I'm halfway through and I think it's okay, but pretty weak for a Murakami. Maybe I was just expecting too much, because I haven't read anything from him in a long time. But hell, it's still enjoyable.
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>> No. 2699 [Edit]
Currently reading "The House on the Borderlands."
I can see why Lovecraft was so inspired by it. The indefinite horror which it instills in the reader really knocks the socks off of the Gothic horrors which preceded it.
>> No. 2734 [Edit]
I just finished The Good Earth. There was some decent payoff at the end but I'm not sure what the book was about, apart from THE LAND. Apparently the series continues but I've had enough.

Started reading Sand by Hugh Howey.
>> No. 2736 [Edit]
my tooth hurts

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